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were_gopher ([personal profile] were_gopher) wrote2010-04-14 03:51 pm

Wondering

What is wrong with this world that makes me even slightly nervous that I've let a 12YO and a 9YO go to the park at the end of our road on their own for an hour. Ok the 12YO isn't as savy as most kids his age but it's still something I don't think our parents would have thought twice about in the 60s or 70s.

[identity profile] fleetfootmike.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=North+Ferriby,+North+Humberside+HU14+3EZ,+UK&geocode=FcypMwMd_E74_w%3BFZvBMwMdpzn4_yn9hyFqHep4SDFskb9nZD7ZZg&hl=en&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=53.720419,-0.505865&sspn=0.007669,0.021436&ie=UTF8&ll=53.720584,-0.50595&spn=0.007669,0.021436&t=h&z=16) was a walk I was allowed to do on my own after school - school's actually in the middle. A is my friend Paul's house, B is home - at age 10.
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[identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I slightly fret sometimes. But my nine-year-old goes to the local park and to the corner shop on his own regularly. We don't let him go to the nicer park that requires him to cross a slightly more difficult road. My daughter started walking home from school alone at age 10. But round here the majority of primary school children do not go out alone at all (a small minority go everywhere alone all the time).

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know.

I started walking home from school by myself when I was six or seven. About a mile through the Council estates on which I lived with one difficult road.

At ten I was cycling on A roads up to five miles from home. I also went to the speech therapist by myself, which involved two bus routes and an awkward change. The speech therapist thought nothing of the fact that I came by myself.

At eleven we all went to school by bus or walked - mine was four miles away, with two major difficult roads and a half mile walk at the end of it. By this time I knew all the paths through the woods and fields and golf courses within a couple of miles radius of my house, and often walked them by myself.

And I wasn't even a particularly self-sufficient child, and my parents were intelligent and loving and careful.

[identity profile] jsburbidge.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Statistically, it's by and large safer than in the 1950s and 60s, assuming similar neighborhoods.

By 10 I was walking to the central public library, about a fifteen minute walk away, on a regular basis, by and 12 I was walking all over downtown. (I still have some paperbacks I purchased at a second hand bookstore while on my own at about 12). Come to think of it, I started high school at 12 and had to walk the same 15-minute walk as to the library every day (the school and the library were across from one another). This was in a moderate-sized city.

[identity profile] coth.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I went out to play and to school on the train or bus from about 9 years of age in the Sixties. And my 9-y-o daughter is allowed out alone, though she doesn't take that much advantage of the license. But last year I got told off by a local woman who thought a 13-year old (Bohemiancoast's daughter) was too young to supervise an 8-year old in the local park. The general rule seems to be that primary school kids are not allowed out without an adult, and a fair few families keep the rule for secondary school kids for at least another couple of years.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I was cycling a couple of miles to school by the time I was 12.

It's every bit as safe now as it was in the 60s, it's just that newspapers have realised that child molestors sell newspapers.

Stop reading the papers and you'll feel a lot less worried.

I realised the 'stranger danger' thing had got out of hand when a friend's child fell off her bike and was too scared to allow the local vicar to help her.

I decided at that point to tell my kids that virtually all people are nice and that they could do pretty much anything - as long as they ALWAYS told me first where they were going and who they were going with.

They grew up fine.

I remember a few of our neighbours were initially concerned when their daughters started playing with Henry during his university holidays. Age gap of about 8-10 years. He found the company of younger kids relaxing and the gang of girls (and a few boys) liked having a friend who was big enough to give them shoulder rides. I recall one summer where he had a group of them up on the scaffolding tower while he was painting the front of the house. I think he was telling them stories.

He's a natural uncle - and sadly, being a male who enjoys the company of children is enough to generate suspicion in this day and age.

(Just in case you're wandering, he was never alone with any of the girls and almost never brought the gang into the house.)

[identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com 2010-04-15 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I often wished Leonie had been a bit more adventurous with her outdoors play.

However most of the local kids were very insular and fiercely protected their "patches" from others. So she couldn't go too far without running into "hostiles".

If your two don't encounter that problem then all to the good.

Where I grew up the kids weren't so bad, they at least acknowledge the local park as "neutral" territory.